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R.I.P. -- Robert Elmer Borders - Headquarters 67-68

Post by johncope » Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:18 am

I received the following email in October of 2006:
Mr. Copeland

I would first like to thank you for your and the 569ths service to our country in the Vietnam War. It is appreciated.

I am a military historian of different countries and eras. If I could take a moment of your spare time to ask some questions I would greatly appreciate any help you could provide.

I am now in the process of researching an individual who served in the 569th Engineers around the same time you did. The man I am enquiring about served from March 31st, 1967 to October 5th, 1968. His name was Spec/5 Robert Elmer Borders. I have found out he has since passed away.

He held the following MOS/Duties with the 569th Engineer Co. (as per his Army records, not sure of some of the official abbreviations): Gen Sup Spec, Ensup Parts Spec, Company Clerk. I unfortunately do not know of any of his lower unit assignments.

I was wondering if you knew of this man or knew of anyone who would know of him.

Thank you kindly for your time in reading this email,
Kenneth C. Wolf
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August 1967 to April 1969

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Re: R.I.P. -- Robert Elmer Borders -- My reply

Post by johncope » Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:21 am

I replied:
Hello Kenneth.

Yes I believe I recall him. I think he was a company clerk or in supply. He was a big good looking guy (6' 0' to 6.2") with dark hair. I believe this is a photo of him http://www.569th.com/soldiers/freetime/nt_food01.jpg leaning back in his chair on the right. We partied together like everyone but were not close friends. I remember him to be a very heavy drinker. We all pretty much were during those days, but he would get pretty rowdy at times. I actually had a fight with him during one of his more drunken episodes.

I'm sorry to hear he passed away. It is interesting to hear from and about those I knew there. Did he become a career soldier?

Best regards,

John Copeland
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Re: R.I.P. -- Robert Elmer Borders - Mr. Wolf's reply

Post by johncope » Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:27 am

Here is the reply I received from Mr. Wolf
Mr. Copeland

Thank you for your response to my email. This is greatly appreciated. I never expected a photo, a very nice addition. It is a bit of a story about how I came to research him. I'll give you the entire scoop. I will give you the information I have on him now, as it is a research in progress, and will send you more as I get it in.

Military geneology/research interests me very greatly, it is my lifetime hobby, but bores others; so please forgive me if I seem a bit overzealous or redundant. I like to give all the details. Here's the story:

A friend of mine sent me a pair of dog tags he found at a flea market in Princeton , Indiana. They were fairly well worn around the neck cord holes, and a bit beat up, lots of personality............so I figured I had a really nice story on my hands. I researched different avenues using the name and army serial number on the tags: I came up with the following name/dates: Robert E. Borders, DOB: 10/06/1946, Date of Death: 01/02/1983, Place of Death: Princeton, Indiana.

Note that his place of death is where his dog tags also turned up years later.

Apparently, he died as a very young man. The day after New Years day, 1983. I have not yet determined how he died, but am working on it. I then requested his service record from the national archives in Missouri..............using the info on his dog tags...............plus the information I found on his date of birth, death and home town (Princeton, Indiana).

He did not become a career soldier, but left after his time was over. He was a draftee, "US" serial number prefix.

His military details read as the following:

Robert Elmer Borders
Dates of Service: 10/05/66 to 10/08/68
Rank: Specialist 5th Class
Place of entry: Princeton, Indiana (apparently his hometown, not just his place of death)
Place of Separation: Fort Lewis Washington
Decorations/Awards: National Defense Service Medal, Vietnam Service Medal, Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal
February 20th, 1967: Enroute to USARPAC
March 31st, 1967: Gen Sup Spec (76Y30) 569th Engr Co (Topo) (Corps) USARPAC
December 9th, 1967: Ensup Parts Spec (76Q20) "
February 22nd, 1968: Company Clerk (71H20) "
October 5th, 1968: Enroute to CONUS

Please let me know if I can be of any further assistance or if you have any comments or questions, everthing is more than welcome,
Kenneth Wolf

this was the last I heard...
If anyone would like to contact Mr Wolf, you can private message me through the forum for his address.
John Copeland
Carto Platoon
August 1967 to April 1969

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